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Roxane Gay

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1007 total appearances

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It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

It is one ensconced in privilege that most people will never, ever have access to.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

And she is actually working.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

And I will say to her credit, she is not actually encouraging women to become trad lives in any way.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

Then you have like Ballerina Farms, who is married to the heir to the JetBlue fortune.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

And again, this is not really disclosed.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

And so, yeah, it looks great for her to live on her farm with her ye old kitchen and her 5,000 children.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

Mm-hmm.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

And I'm so happy for them.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

But so much of what they are promoting is not realistic for most people.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

Farming is actually extremely expensive.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

It is backbreaking work.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

It is not glamorous.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

Most people do not get to stroll around the farm being followed by someone who's filming them.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

And so, yeah, you want that life, but you want that life exactly as it's being communicated to you, not as how it would be lived in your shoes.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

So we need to really do some work to educate people about what they're actually choosing and also recognize that people are going to make that choice and nothing will make people embrace a bad choice faster than telling them they shouldn't be doing it.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

Well, you can only bring people in if they're willing to join you there.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

So many women are making their parenting and marriage choices their entire identity.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

When you challenge their choices, you really are, as they perceive it, challenging who they are.

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

You and I

It's A Lot with Abbie Chatfield
ROXANE GAY: How Do We Protect Women's Rights?

can say all of the right things and they're still going to hear it as judgment.