Ruban Nielson

all I remember is being really excited about it.

And, um, yeah, unless I'm completely wrong and all came up with it, I think it was Cody started playing that.

And I, I can't remember why he started playing it.

I don't know where that drum part came from.

Just a moment of inspiration, I suppose.

And it was just like, um, cause the song itself is pretty straightforward.

It's almost like a kind of Motown love song or something.

But, um,

With that weird military drum loop idea, it becomes super weird, you know?

It's normal.

It took longer because...

I think the first album we did really quickly and we recorded it all live together as a band.

And the second album was, we just took longer and did it in a different way.

I like laid down things more slowly and

it took a long time to mix and stuff and our dad helped us a lot our dad was uh helping us i guess make it more professional because it's like the the idea behind it i think was that we'd done all of these weird records and we wanted to try and do like a like a proper record if that makes sense like a like let's try like like a real like those albums like those bands that are trying to

make things for people that they enjoy or something which was like weirdly at the time like we just didn't think about that that much like we didn't really didn't care what anyone thought of us so it was like the first time that we actually started to think about the enjoyment of the audience or whatever and

And, yeah, so it took a lot longer than the other record did because the other record we sort of threw together very spontaneously, which I think I'm also really proud of that record.

Yeah, so it was a lot of we would record something and then my dad would talk about, you know,

making a mix was like that sounded professional was like polishing it to make it more presentable and it's just like I guess it was something I just hadn't thought about that much because we were doing punk music and but then all of a sudden it was like oh we've already kind of done a lot of this DIY punk style recording and it's like maybe we should try and work on this for a long time and see what happens and I think that's all that's how I remember it going and

I don't think we had any particular goals, but we were trying to put our best effort in and try and make a really good album.