Ruben Gallego

And I think that, you know, that's a little more authentic than us kind of being orthodox all the time.

I was not a great Harvard student, so you don't definitely want me to be.

I guess like for me, the problem is more the word.

You need to do whatever, let me, you need to do what it takes to win that stays within your value system.

First of all, as an elected, right?

This is me telling you someone that had to put their name on the ballot and had to run a very hard race in a very hard year.

You know, Arizona was a very, very Republican year in 2024.

And the way I look at this, like my state,

has 315,000 more registered Democrats than Republicans.

It's Republicans, then independents, then Democrats and declining, right?

And so I didn't think about this, like I need to moderate on this in order to get, you know, this vote to come this way or anything like that.

I kind of thought about it more along the lines of like, this is the demographic.

And I know in some areas, this is where they care about.

And this, am I aligned with that, right?

I'll give you some really easy examples.

Yeah, give me an example.

Policing.

Right.

You know, there was there was a vein that carried all the way into 2024 among definitely based Democrats about, you know, not being too pro police, not just that you had to be abolish ICE, abolish the police, which was a very extreme movement.

But even if you actually were too pro.