Ruby Bartzis

what they can do is they'll call the kids and really all they need is their kid to just answer and say hello maybe a few words and then they've got a voice print so then they will use that voice print to call you and you know say that i need money i'm you know i'm lost i need you know yeah yeah right yeah

It does.

And I know on Australian True Crime, we've had a few people come on who have been scammed and it challenges the misconception that, you know, there's a lot of shame when you get scammed.

You don't want to tell people because you don't want people to think that you're stupid.

But that's not typically the case, is it?

It's not really, it's quite intelligent people who typically get scammed, isn't it?