Ruby Hall

put myself in perspective because it's so easy to kind of, you know, it's like wearing in some shoes, you know.

Like, if you get comfortable in them, then you start to, like, I don't know, it's just something about, like, you no longer are, like, excited about that thing.

And so just trying to go, like, remember when you first got these shoes?

They were cool shoes.

Yeah, yeah.

Do you look through it often?

It sounds so, like, I think arrogant to think, like, you know.

I know, but, like,

Yeah.

Is it?

It's really bad.

Yeah.

We have tall poppy syndrome and it's like it's it feels worse there, I think, because we're such a small country.

And I think there's this like it's like the most cutting thing you could you could be called, especially even at school would be like, what a try hard.

And you're like, oh no, like trying hard is bad.

And so you're kind of like so scared to be like cringe or to like be authentic or to like show that you care about something or to actually try hard at something because…

you're worried that people will, like, view that as, like, just, ugh.

Yeah.

Like, that's so weird.

Yeah.