Rupert Lowe

Well, it's a very good question, Tucker.

I just don't know the answer to that.

But what I do know is the people who care about it happening need to now coalesce and actually start to show those people who are perpetrating this on us that they don't want it.

And if that means that they get turfed out of power, that's what's got to happen.

We've got to turf them out of power and make common sense prevail.

It's common sense we're lacking everywhere.

But I think there are, you know, as I said, there are some signs that in the US, you know, people are beginning to address it and people are beginning to take action.

But it's like walking through glue, isn't it?

I mean, there's this malign power base that doesn't lie down very easily and it's always there waiting to pounce again.

Thank you very much, Rupert, for talking to me.