Russ Cook

But I also think that living that mindset taught me why that's not actually a great mindset to have.

It's amazing if you're looking to get things done quickly, you're optimising for achievement, which I probably was at that time in my life.

Like,

having that achievement would really meant something to me.

But I think I'm in a slightly different season of life now and it's like, okay, I have a responsibility to other people around me.

Also, like, a community is a much more important part.

Family, these things are more important to me and going and just sort of throwing my life away

risking my life like it doesn't mean anything is actually foolish.

It's not a wise thing to do.

Like I've been blessed with the opportunity of life and it feels somewhat noble to go, I will die for this game.

But to say that would be to say that my life hasn't got the inherent value that I think a life does.

Achievement's not everything, you know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

100%, yeah, yeah.

exploration asking questions of yourself and as well as other people yeah well I think it's different it's just different seasons it's like that season I had this ferociousness and tenacity which I think is really powerful for young people in general is like the facts are you're kind of a bit stupid you don't have the wisdom yet to know which direction to go in but you kind of replace it with this just like ah like ferociousness for life which is valuable which is super valuable and I would never want to put that fire out in someone but I think

Just part of the arc is then realising that that ferociousness needs to be tamed and guided in certain ways because if it is left to just manifest in whatever way you want it to, then it will... I'm literally a walking example of this.

It will take you down some paths that maybe you don't want to go down, you know, or maybe are not wise to go down.

So I think when that ferociousness matures, it's like you just start having the wisdom to go...