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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This episode of High Performance is brought to you by Bulldog Skincare. In their mission to support everyday skin endurance, Bulldog Skincare are proud to be the official men's skincare partner of Ironman Europe. And our guest today here on High Performance is a true high performer. Russ Cook, or maybe Hardest Geezer, as you might know him.
Russ of course shot to public fame after completing a number of incredibly impressive feats of endurance, most notably his run across Africa in 2024, which saw him become the first person to run the length of Africa. Over 352 days, Russ covered more than 10,000 miles along the way inspiring so many people as he documented his journey and raised close to a million pounds for charity.
However, he didn't stop there. He's gone on to complete a number of other serious challenges. And as he sits down and talks to me, he's currently training for the Leeds Ironman Triathlon. Yeah, baby. Now, look, I haven't competed in an Ironman, but Bulldog Skincare have challenged our guest today to do exactly that. And I'm excited for him.
However, in this episode, what I really want to dive into is the mindset around what it actually takes to prepare for something like an Ironman. What is driving Russ and can he pull it off?
How's the training going? Well, I had a baby four weeks ago, so... getting a good amount of sleep deprivation training in. But no, mate, I'm really looking forward to the Ironman in Leeds. It's going to be a bit of a different test for me. Obviously, I've done the running before, but the swimming and the cycling is a whole new kettle of fish.
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Chapter 2: What motivated Russ Cook to run the length of Africa?
Okay, sum up parenthood after four weeks for me. Do you know what, mate? I think... If I was talking really honestly, when she was born, I've never been struck by like, it literally felt like a lightning rod of emotion. I don't know how it is with your kids. It sounds quite soppy, but I've never felt so much love in my heart. Some of my favourite things at the moment are
watching em my missus and and poppy our little girl just asleep in the mornings or in in the evenings they're just like cuddled up there asleep or i'll dance around with her in the kitchen send her off well stick coldplay on the speakers and i'll have a little sing and a dance of her and um oh mate there's yeah a real deep sense of like fulfillment from the last four weeks which has been really nice actually
And this is interesting in the conversation we're having, I think, for you, because motivation is so important to do the things that you do. And I wonder whether having a baby is this whole new layer of motivation, a whole nother reason for what you do.
I would definitely think, I mean, I am only four weeks in, but I would definitely think so. I think it gives a new sort of responsibility as well. You know, it's not... I think even when I look back at some of the challenges I've done before, there's definitely an element of I'm doing it for a higher purpose, I'm doing it for other people.
But I think now that I've got my little girl in the world, there's this sense of I'm her father, I want to protect her, I want to guide her in all the right ways. And I know that a lot of that is down to how well... what can I do in my own life?
Listen, I think a lot of people talk to you about what happened in Africa. And before this conversation, I obviously listened to you on lots of other podcasts and read lots of articles. And so much focus was about what you learned in Africa, how Africa tested you, where the growth was. And I would like to rewind quite a lot. Sounds great. To when you're 21, you're in Worthing.
You've been up since four o'clock in the morning, working as a cleaner. You come home, you open a cupboard, and in that cupboard is a single tin of little new potatoes.
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Chapter 3: How did Russ's early life shape his journey?
Oh, what a time to be alive that was. Take me into that room. I was a bit younger than 21 then, actually.
Yeah.
I would say, when I look back on it now, I'd say that was such a pivotal moment for me.
A specific moment in time?
Yeah, I don't think I necessarily realised it at the time, but it encapsulates a time in my life where I felt kind of directionless. I had a lot of energy and I had a lot of motivation to do something with my life, but I really didn't know where to apply that. So I think I was really struggling with that and in that kind of moment, you open the door
the cupboard you got tin of new potatoes for dinner and that's all I had I had no money to get anything else it was showing me my like almost uselessness and it just gave me this feeling of like I know that I'm kind of like I feel like helpless and useless and don't know where I'm going and but I know I'm at the start of trying to figure that out.
So, I mean, it wasn't for a few years until I really started making any significant changes, but that was definitely a point at the moment where I went, like, one day, this feels rubbish now, but one day this is going to be worth it and this is going to have meaning, this moment. So how had you ended up
working as a cleaner with no money, with only a tin of new potatoes to eat for dinner? Like what was going on? Because you are like a driven, interesting, dynamic, hardworking, ambitious guy. And we write people off in this world too often.
Yeah, yeah.
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Chapter 4: How does Russ prepare mentally for challenges like the Ironman?
Whereas often the circumstance is just not right for them.
So I was about 17, 18 during that time. And I think being... I look back now and I go, being a 17, 18-year-old bloke, I mean, I'm sure a girl as well is hard. In that moment, I didn't have any skills, didn't have much life experience. So I was kind of struggling with the fact that I was like, I had all this ambition and motivation, but skill set-wise, I hadn't really...
I haven't really figured out my place yet. And I was kind of bottom of the food chain, as it were. So, you know, what jobs can I get? At 17, 18, the only jobs I could get was cleaning jobs. It was minimum wage, scrubbing the waitrose toilet at four in the morning.
But interestingly, you talk about, I was super ambitious. I knew I wanted to do something. Yeah. What did the ambition look like at that point?
Do you know what it actually, how it manifested was, in a lot of ways, like an arrogance.
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Chapter 5: What role does parenthood play in Russ's current mindset?
I didn't want to listen to people that, if I looked at someone's life and I would look at, you know, I would say this, we're a bit ashamed now, but I would look at my parents or maybe some other adults around me, some of my teachers at school and I'd go, well, I don't really want your life, so I ain't listening to you.
And I kind of just applied that logic to sort of a lot of people that I would encounter that were older. So that kind of, ends up leading me down quite an isolated path because I'm no longer really trying to take direction off people that I don't deem valuable enough or live in a life that I want to live. So I'm kind of not going to listen to you. And that kind of was a blessing and a curse.
It led me down quite a lonely path to start with. But then once I was, you know, I was born in that sort of age where podcasts were coming through at that time and I was listening to the Joe Rogans and these type of, and I was thinking, you are living a life, oh God, so I am going to listen to this. And that kind of was a really important start of, kick-starting my thinking in that way.
I think we've got a bit of an issue where, particularly for young guys, they are a little bit unsure about what their place looks like in society now.
I think it's a huge problem, yeah. I get the sense that you were kind of in that place. Massively, yeah. Massively. I think it wasn't necessarily an information problem. We have access to an amazing amount of information now. It was a bit more of a direction problem. I didn't know what...
direction do i want to head in and that's um it's a bit of a rite of passage for a young man i think is is finding that direction so here's my question then if you could rewind the clock and leave school know the direction and immediately begin which is what all parents want for their children leave school have an idea of what you want to do what do we say to 13 year olds
what do you want to be when you're older? Oh my goodness. It's the worst question you can ask a young person because they should be available to explore. If I could remove that period of your life and take you straight from school to a sense of fulfilment and a purpose and a career, would you take that opportunity? No. Why not?
Because I think that it's really valuable to come to that conclusion through the mistakes. They keep you in line. I know now that gambling is a bad thing for me to do because I've been there. I've spunked all my wages month after month on roulette and acres at the weekend. That's deeply entrenched, but I know that's silly. Whereas if I never had done that...
then I wouldn't... So I've done that in so many different verticals. I've done that with the party and with the drinking, with the sitting down on a Sunday morning after a hangover with the Domino's and the pizza and the ice cream in bed forever and just wishing, oh, I wish this was my life.
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Chapter 6: What pivotal moment led Russ to pursue running seriously?
And I just packed a camelback for hammock and phone charger and a bar of soap and a toothbrush. And I thought, can I do it? I think I've got the resilience to it. I think I've got the grittiness for it. But we are going to find out. That's the adventure. We are going to see what I'm made of in this moment. I'm going to find out who I really am. And I was just pulled towards that.
I got through it. It was 71 marathons in 66 days at that time, but I was fully by myself, 11 different countries, camping in the woods every night. I had a bunch of different challenges there. And then I finished that with this kind of like rock steady sense of if I apply myself, I believe I can do anything on this scale. And that's when I thought of Africa.
And that's the great thing about doing hard things.
Yeah, yeah.
You're just building up a body of evidence that you can do hard things.
Yeah.
And I love this idea where you said, you said something there, you said, people who are not in his world think it's mad when you're talking about the guy that cycled across the world with his pannier. And this is where I think it's all about perception and the way that we're all brought up. Like we're told, oh, you want to live a good life? Okay, great. Get a job.
Yeah.
Do that job for life. Pay your taxes. Buy a house. When you buy a house, you can have kids. When you've bought a house and had kids, you can buy a nice car and then you can eventually retire.
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Chapter 7: How did Russ's gambling experiences influence his perspective?
But you go like, fucking hell. That's like, it's a lot to take on. So I think... For me, that scale on that, it can be really exciting, but because it's daunting, I like to just focus on... It can get a bit messy if you look at it all at once. You don't know what's the first step I'm going to take. So for me, it was all about just...
This is a big task, but we are just going to break it down into the 20K before breakfast, 20K before lunch, 20K before dinner. I know I can do that. So it feels way more comfortable now. We should go execute, execute, execute, execute, execute.
So I want to talk about the sort of continued motivation that you have, particularly when it comes to competing. And again, Bulldog have got products which can help you and help everyone feel their best when these big moments of competition arrive, such as the Bulldog Anytime Daily UV Moisturizer SPF 50, which gives you all-day hydration and sweat-resistant protection.
When the starting pistol goes, I want to talk to you a bit about the feeling that you get, particularly as someone who, in the eyes of so many people, has achieved the ultimate. Like what you did in Africa almost feels like it can never be bettered or never be beaten.
Yeah.
But you've kind of, you've found a way to continue competing, continue pushing yourself.
Yeah, well, I think that for me, challenge is not something that you do tick and then you move on to other areas of your life. It's a constant part of life and it's a necessary component for me to continue to find out who I am as I develop in different seasons of my life. So running Africa was obviously like an achievement or a challenge that sort of caught more attention than others.
And people will frame that in their own mind that it was like the hardest thing that I've, that I'll never be able to top it and blah, blah, blah. But for me, there's always, I am so flawed. There's unlimited things I can challenge myself with, right? So like with the Ironman, for example, I, I can barely swim. I did three lengths of a pool the other day. I nearly passed out.
So, like, I am up against it. How long have you got till the Leeds triathlon? Not long enough. I think it's like two months now or something. If you've only got three lengths in your tank. Yeah, exactly. But this is the beautiful part about a challenge for me is that, like...
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Chapter 8: What lessons did Russ learn from his journey across Africa?
Well, it boxed you in in Africa and I think it can box you in in life as well if you don't keep an eye on it. What does high performance mean to you? The ability to get what you want out of life. Amazing. I've loved this conversation. Me too, man. Really, really interesting. And good luck in Leeds. Thank you. Thanks for having me as well.
I'll be thinking of you, that you can only currently swim three lengths of the pool.
The good news is, if I make it out of that lake, then I've got half a chance there. Is that what you feel? As soon as the swim's over, you're good? I'm glad that it's first. Get the most difficult one done first, and then we're away. Love that.
Russ, thank you so much. No worries. And thank you as well for listening to this special episode of High Performance brought to you by our friends at Bulldog Skincare. Look, as you just heard, right, it can be exciting to talk about big achievements, whether that's winning a race or competing in an Ironman.
But I think what we've actually touched on in this conversation is that it's easy to overlook the everyday hard work, both physically and mentally, that goes into making great things happen. And actually the same goes for all of us in our personal lives. We all want that buzz, right, of reaching for the big target. But the risk is we overlook the strain it can put on our lives.
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