Russ Vought
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The whole ballgame has shifted, right? Like, I don't even know why you would do many of these interviews at all, because if you can't get... You know, you've got to be able to get your words out without just complete combativeness. And I think the best example is remember the Caitlin Collins interview with President Trump. I mean, it's just constant interrupting and fighting.
The whole ballgame has shifted, right? Like, I don't even know why you would do many of these interviews at all, because if you can't get... You know, you've got to be able to get your words out without just complete combativeness. And I think the best example is remember the Caitlin Collins interview with President Trump. I mean, it's just constant interrupting and fighting.
misuse of lies, actually. And so that's the kind of thing that you're up against. But you can shape them. You can, particularly the print media. And I think it's important to at least attempt to do that. But You have to make the measure of the person that you're dealing with. And sometimes they're just, you know, they're complete activists themselves.
misuse of lies, actually. And so that's the kind of thing that you're up against. But you can shape them. You can, particularly the print media. And I think it's important to at least attempt to do that. But You have to make the measure of the person that you're dealing with. And sometimes they're just, you know, they're complete activists themselves.
misuse of lies, actually. And so that's the kind of thing that you're up against. But you can shape them. You can, particularly the print media. And I think it's important to at least attempt to do that. But You have to make the measure of the person that you're dealing with. And sometimes they're just, you know, they're complete activists themselves.
I did, and I very rarely ever learned anything particularly interesting in the briefing. Is that true? Yeah. They didn't tell you who killed Kennedy, huh? They did not, right? And so, you know, I think I came away with the similar skepticism of these briefings and the information and the over-classification in the system. Yes.
I did, and I very rarely ever learned anything particularly interesting in the briefing. Is that true? Yeah. They didn't tell you who killed Kennedy, huh? They did not, right? And so, you know, I think I came away with the similar skepticism of these briefings and the information and the over-classification in the system. Yes.
I did, and I very rarely ever learned anything particularly interesting in the briefing. Is that true? Yeah. They didn't tell you who killed Kennedy, huh? They did not, right? And so, you know, I think I came away with the similar skepticism of these briefings and the information and the over-classification in the system. Yes.
They classify everything, and you're reading this thing, and you're like, you realize that's all... just normal stuff that's out in a congressional research service. Yeah, it's on Twitter. I think that's a huge thing that we've got to fix, over classification and system. But I think they both create this environment where it's very exclusive.
They classify everything, and you're reading this thing, and you're like, you realize that's all... just normal stuff that's out in a congressional research service. Yeah, it's on Twitter. I think that's a huge thing that we've got to fix, over classification and system. But I think they both create this environment where it's very exclusive.
They classify everything, and you're reading this thing, and you're like, you realize that's all... just normal stuff that's out in a congressional research service. Yeah, it's on Twitter. I think that's a huge thing that we've got to fix, over classification and system. But I think they both create this environment where it's very exclusive.
they are trying to bring you into their kind of priestly role so that, no, I saw the briefing. If you had seen the briefing, you would be okay with us not having a FISA warrant requirement. Exactly. You would be okay with us just another $100 billion for Ukraine. We can't have Ukraine fall. None of it is rigorous analysis. And honestly, I think that's the biggest thing that I was –
they are trying to bring you into their kind of priestly role so that, no, I saw the briefing. If you had seen the briefing, you would be okay with us not having a FISA warrant requirement. Exactly. You would be okay with us just another $100 billion for Ukraine. We can't have Ukraine fall. None of it is rigorous analysis. And honestly, I think that's the biggest thing that I was –
they are trying to bring you into their kind of priestly role so that, no, I saw the briefing. If you had seen the briefing, you would be okay with us not having a FISA warrant requirement. Exactly. You would be okay with us just another $100 billion for Ukraine. We can't have Ukraine fall. None of it is rigorous analysis. And honestly, I think that's the biggest thing that I was –
bemoaning is the extent to which rigorous analysis that I thought would be there wasn't there. What do you mean by rigorous analysis? I don't expect people to agree with me constantly. I want well-prepared memos that have a conviction to them and then support them. These are not like, I'm going to plant the flag, and then we can just say, okay, who's right, who's that, who has better support?
bemoaning is the extent to which rigorous analysis that I thought would be there wasn't there. What do you mean by rigorous analysis? I don't expect people to agree with me constantly. I want well-prepared memos that have a conviction to them and then support them. These are not like, I'm going to plant the flag, and then we can just say, okay, who's right, who's that, who has better support?
bemoaning is the extent to which rigorous analysis that I thought would be there wasn't there. What do you mean by rigorous analysis? I don't expect people to agree with me constantly. I want well-prepared memos that have a conviction to them and then support them. These are not like, I'm going to plant the flag, and then we can just say, okay, who's right, who's that, who has better support?
No, no. It's like, I'm going to give a blob an exercise to report on something, and the blob is going to kind of like... All it's not a Google spreadsheet, but it's going to all be, you know, an interactive Google spreadsheet to just spit out something that is a consensus document. And you're reading this thing.
No, no. It's like, I'm going to give a blob an exercise to report on something, and the blob is going to kind of like... All it's not a Google spreadsheet, but it's going to all be, you know, an interactive Google spreadsheet to just spit out something that is a consensus document. And you're reading this thing.
No, no. It's like, I'm going to give a blob an exercise to report on something, and the blob is going to kind of like... All it's not a Google spreadsheet, but it's going to all be, you know, an interactive Google spreadsheet to just spit out something that is a consensus document. And you're reading this thing.