Russ Vought
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5 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard 18 Apr
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And he's out there opposing the whole notion of recess appointments, uh, for, for, for whatever reason, I don't know, other than he thinks that unseemly and not the way that the family. Okay.
They only matter to the extent that people in the arena listen to them. Right. And that is increasingly they are not being listened to. And I think that's part of one of the reasons why they're so up in arms about it. Right. I mean, that's National Review itself is that's phenomenal.
Right. And I think that's – but my point is the extent to which people have opposed Trump and the America First agenda I think ultimately is a loss of power because they didn't get to set the agenda. They don't get to be the traffic cop. They don't get to kind of say, oh, this offends my sensibility anymore. No. No.
If you have a radical constitutionalism, and that's really what I've been calling for, given this crazy unconstitutional situation that we're finding ourselves in. If you have a radical constitutionalism, it's going to be destabilizing. You may find that you can use the – James Madison could have put a whole lot more recess appointments in than you would have ever imagined.
But it's also exhilarating. And why, if you're trying to preserve the country, would you make arguments against that? Why wouldn't you be making arguments for it? So that's one of the reasons we just put out a five page paper. We'll put out a 40 page paper next as to this is the constitutional grounds for recess appointments of we haven't just President Trump hasn't decided to do it.
But if he does, he will be in the same vein as our founders. It's a little weird.
No.
Again, I haven't spoken to Senator McConnell on it. My guess is that the Senate is going to want to know the argument. And they probably have been told and may have been told, and I'm going to just keep it as positive as possible, that this is inappropriate. You can't do it. And I want to show them and know, in fact, you can. It is entirely appropriate and to win the argument.
And then if you win the argument and then people are like, no, we don't want to do this, then it's a different matter, right? It's like it just kind of reveals that they're not actually on board with those particular nominees going into office. And that's a different issue. So I think that we don't know yet to whether Will the Senate have an issue?
I mean, to some extent, the Senate knows it has an issue because they couldn't move these nominees fast enough in the first term because the Democrats were filibustering everyone. Right. And so and by the way, you know, a lot of these hearings and you read the history books and people got approved by the Senate in a day, you know, like.
The system wasn't meant to be this slow, and it has been bogged down and slowed down. And we'll see, you know, Senator Thune, Majority Leader Thune, will have a chance to put his own imprint on the Senate, and I want to see how he does.
Well, you know, I've always said the last four years I would never want to miss out on another chance to be at the president's side. I find in him to be someone who's so uniquely situated for the moment.
And you go back, and I've done some reading on this, you go back and read some of the Federalist Papers, and they actually designed the system for someone like him whose interest would align with the country's interest to such an extent to which
It actually works like separation of powers is meant to have strong, opinionated, convictional leadership that go as fast as they can and hard as they can in their direction. And for the system to then have true separation of powers. Right. An example of that is what he's proposing on recess appointments. If the Constitution allows you to do it, why wouldn't you do it if it's in your interest?
And then let's see what Congress does in response to that. But that's real separation of powers. It's not like this kind of fake fallacy. fourth branch administrative state where none of it works and it's all kind of cartel behind the scene where all you get is kind of different parts of each of the branch coming together almost as a blob.
And I think he's so unique in terms of being a historical transformative person that we can actually save the country. And that's really what it comes down to. The hour's late. It's 1159 It's not too late, but it's really late. And this isn't an election where you can just have seesaws. We'll be up and you'll be down.
No, if we don't win and he's won an electoral mandate, now it's time to actually execute. If we... don't execute, we may never have this chance again. And so you have the president who's ready to go. Now you need know-how people who can do that and do it with the attacks that are coming and they will come, right? They will come hardest at the people that they believe are the greatest threats.
And but but that's what the president needs. The president needs those types of people where he's not going to be successful and the country won't be saved. And I just I think that it's incumbent on those of us who have that skill set, who have have had the experiences we've had. You know, we're put here for a reason.
We're here because God has given us a particular purpose for a particular time, and it's incumbent on us to be responsible with those moments that we're given. So I don't know what the future holds. I don't know if I serve or if I continue at my center to be championing the ideas that he's working on.
I'm happy with both of those scenarios, but it's incumbent on us to give everything we can to be successful in this moment because I don't think we will get another moment like this.
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