Russell Brand

You could say that about any author.

You could say that about a prostitute, a thief.

If you're making money from what you do, then you are open to the charge.

You can level that accusation on anybody.

That I think takes us to a principle that's of maybe more value to discuss, and Lord alone knows that was part of my frustration with Piers Morgan, was the sense of being corralled into not only personally deleterious subjects, although yeah, that's not nice, but this is not it at all, in the words of T.S.

Eliot.

No, no, that's not worth discussing.

What are you talking about?

Oh no, you're doing it deliberately.

You're kind of part of it.

You don't even know what you're participating in.

is kind of frustrating and then to see myself contaminated by it, to see myself start to throb or at least walk to the beat of that drum.

No, what is interesting is maybe that one must be an ascetic if one is to exemplify high principle because if

People go, well, but you're making all this money out of your church or, you know, whether that's something as big as the Holy Roman Catholic Church or as evident and obvious as some evangelical movement somewhere in the American South.

If you're open at all, you know, like one way of overcoming that charge is by saying, I'm not gonna, I'm a mendicant.

I deny myself material pleasure.

I don't want to get fully flagellatory, but maybe it's good to mortify the flesh, to let the flesh be dead already in preparation for the new body, to say, I don't have sex.

I don't do that.

I recognize its power.

I recognize the allure.