Overcoming Addiction, Allegations and Finding Christ (Russell Brand) | Ep. 578
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What allegations have been made about Russell Brand?
Allegations have been made about you. Can we talk about that or not?
One thing I've always known about myself is that I was motivated by some sort of culturally born appetite for fame, celebrity success, power. And yet I also had what feels like the spiritual equivalent of a pathology towards mission. Something that you are going to do this no matter what.
How are you standing upright and not in constant panic given the fact that you have to go and stand trial in a few months? Because I believe in God. Right. Can you back up to what led to this encounter with Christ?
As a crack addict and a heroin addict, really what you're trying to do is defibrillate the dead world, the dead world, into some sort of state of meaning, some sort of vitality.
I would like to ask you, if it's not too personal a question, why you're not a Catholic.
When I'm taking communion at the Protestant church that I go to, I like... I want it to be his flesh, and I want it to be his blood. It isn't, though. I love the rosary. It's evocative. It's powerful to me.
How could you not? This is for you, by the way. I wanted to give it to you.
Oh, you're kidding me. Even for some things relatively trivial, like the appearance on Piers Morgan, which bit of you hurts after that? Give it up.
How does Russell Brand cope with his upcoming trial?
Put that at the foot of the cross. Now you know. Oh, so you do care. You don't want people to think you're dumb. Oh, you don't want people to think you're fraudulent. Put that at the foot of the cross. Give that to him.
What's it like coming on a show like this with a fella you've never met before, not knowing what I want to talk to you about, especially given all that's going on right now?
I suppose that faith means that I'm guided by things unseen and therefore a level of trust is continually required. And also I'm trying not to rely on my own ability to make assessments about what I want, what I don't want, what's right for me. Although I'm sort of undergoing, people don't understand, I don't think. I undergo quite a lot of internal interrogation continually and have always done. I'm not a person who does things unquestioningly. Although I do know when I'm in the flow, when I'm in the spirit.
What led to Russell Brand's encounter with Christ?
And I know when I'm, I start to detect now with greater efficiency when I'm not. So what it's like actually is kind of, in a way, refreshing, even though I've traveled here and it's at the Daily Wire. And look, I'm not the only controversial thing in the world. Catholicism is controversial. If you carry on, you'll be controversial at some point. Daily Wire is controversial. The relationship between Judaism and Christianity is controversial. Me going on Piers Morgan and taking a while to locate. That was fun.
Why does Russell Brand prefer Protestant communion over Catholicism?
The rest of the stuff. I watched it last night. How did you think it went?
I mean, I did two interviews in a pretty short period of time, and one I thought was pretty good- With him or Megyn? Megyn Kelly was, I would say, ultimately not hugely beneficial. And one that I felt at the time, degrees of discomfort also didn't go well. Matt, I'm beginning to... These are the kind of inquiries that I'm making to myself right now. Why are you going on podcasts? What do you want? What do you want? How am I supposed to reconcile? And indeed, am I supposed to reconcile? Or is there someone undertaking reconciliation on my behalf? And indeed, reconciliation and substitution are also... central to his role that my role is almost redundant but nevertheless how do i reconcile me knowing one thing i've always known about myself is i was motivated by some sort of culturally born appetite for fame celebrity success power all of the trinkets that anyone would recognize that still dominate what is now known as the manosphere in many places male status symbols
Affability, ability to attract mates, status, all those things. And yet I also had, and I feel it still, what feels like the spiritual equivalent of a pathology towards mission. Something that you are going to do this no matter what. If this kills you, you will carry on doing it. I felt both of those things.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What allegations have been made about Russell Brand?
0:00–1:14
2
How does Russell Brand cope with his upcoming trial?
1:14–2:26
3
What led to Russell Brand's encounter with Christ?
2:26–2:56
4
Why does Russell Brand prefer Protestant communion over Catholicism?
2:56–1:14:14
5
What insights does Russell Brand share about his potential conversion to Catholicism?
1:14:14–2:26:07
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