Russell Crowe

There's a smoke screen going up, and I thought we were doing that.

And as it turns out, it's very different.

It's one of the most dangerous things, and I see it going on everywhere at the moment, that we're trying to say that you're either, you know, and for want of a better teen name, that you're either red or that you're blue.

Right.

And humans are far more nuanced than that.

We're not that extreme.

And the idea that you can split all of us into two camps, it's kind of nuts.

Yeah, it's nuts.

And it takes out all the room for subtlety in a discussion.

And therefore, it makes communicating with each other less and less available.

But it's – It's going nowhere good.

Yeah.

We have the same sort of two-principle party system in Australia as well.

But we have a slight advantage in that we're kind of –

on the edge of the world in a lot of ways.

So what I've always said is when you're growing up in Australia and New Zealand, you grow up looking out.

Yes, you understand your own culture and all that, but you grow up looking at what else is happening in the rest of the world, what's happening in Europe, what's happening in America.

But by and large, Americans grow up looking in.

The principal sports are only played by American teams, American football, in some instances baseball, but they're not the types of sports that we play where the pinnacle of that sport is international competition.

Rugby union, rugby league, cricket, football, soccer.