Russell Crowe

Yes.

And that's the thing that's difficult because –

Gigantic jumps, we can all read.

But little incremental changes.

The boiling of the frog.

Just how you take away this person's rights, that person's personal power, and slowly you get to a point where the average person then turns around and goes, how did we get to here?

I thought it was about something else.

There's a smoke screen going up, and I thought we were doing that.

And as it turns out, it's very different.

It's one of the most dangerous things, and I see it going on everywhere at the moment, that we're trying to say that you're either, you know, and for want of a better teen name, that you're either red or that you're blue.

Right.

And humans are far more nuanced than that.

We're not that extreme.

And the idea that you can split all of us into two camps, it's kind of nuts.

Yeah, it's nuts.

And it takes out all the room for subtlety in a discussion.

And therefore, it makes communicating with each other less and less available.

But it's – It's going nowhere good.

Yeah.

We have the same sort of two-principle party system in Australia as well.