Ryan Adams

Like, we don't know how this is going to end up yet.

So what is unemployment in the US?

Is it something like 5%?

No, to be clear, not to plan for scenarios.

But why are people getting violent and angry already?

Like, it hasn't happened yet at some level.

That's what I find somewhat curious.

It's a little like Ted Kaczynski-ish.

Okay.

But is it a little Ted, that's, that's pretty, that's pretty strong.

What I'm trying to find out, the violent actions aside, but like all of this, this, you know, kind of vitriol against tech populism.

This is like this vitriol against big tech is how much of it is vibes, you know, versus reality.

Like we don't actually know what is going to happen yet.

It hasn't hit us yet.

So, so much of this is narrative and vibe.

Yeah.

And it might turn out.

Well, if you think the stakes are this high, right?

Wait, wait.

So the way you broke it out, right, and your fear, the thing you hope doesn't happen, but the thing that you're seeing take shape is some sort of a binary between sort of the futurists and the Luddites or the technophiles and the anti-tech people.