Ryan Alford

It's been fascinating for me, but I think especially for you, I'm sure, Jeremy, that whole journey watching what's happened in this explosion of all these channels, you know, TV, online, social media, YouTube, now TikTok, Instagram, all these things with the people and brands that you've worked with.

I'd love to dive down that little bit, you know, telling kind of your story because you kind of came up through it all.

I'd love to dive down that little bit, you know, telling kind of your story because you kind of came up through it all.

I'd love to dive down that little bit, you know, telling kind of your story because you kind of came up through it all.

How did the trading card thing come? I mean, where did that enter? Obviously, and you'll talk about, you know, as a kid and stuff, you know, like we a lot of us have the kid stories. But where did that intersection happen in the career?

How did the trading card thing come? I mean, where did that enter? Obviously, and you'll talk about, you know, as a kid and stuff, you know, like we a lot of us have the kid stories. But where did that intersection happen in the career?

How did the trading card thing come? I mean, where did that enter? Obviously, and you'll talk about, you know, as a kid and stuff, you know, like we a lot of us have the kid stories. But where did that intersection happen in the career?

Right.

Right.

Right.

Yeah. Everybody's got their hands that they know, like the collectibles, you know, realm and the trading cards. They see the smart people are connecting the dots and building units, you know, around how you connect all these things together and how you leverage it to, you know, keep fans being fans. And, you know, I think the smart the winners are going to. Not that they'll necessarily be losers.

Yeah. Everybody's got their hands that they know, like the collectibles, you know, realm and the trading cards. They see the smart people are connecting the dots and building units, you know, around how you connect all these things together and how you leverage it to, you know, keep fans being fans. And, you know, I think the smart the winners are going to. Not that they'll necessarily be losers.

Yeah. Everybody's got their hands that they know, like the collectibles, you know, realm and the trading cards. They see the smart people are connecting the dots and building units, you know, around how you connect all these things together and how you leverage it to, you know, keep fans being fans. And, you know, I think the smart the winners are going to. Not that they'll necessarily be losers.

I don't know if there's any losers. I won't go that far, but there's definitely going to be some big winners. It's had some rocky moments, I think, the Fanatics and Tops. There's been some stuff. But you can't deny that it feels directionally right is my observation.

I don't know if there's any losers. I won't go that far, but there's definitely going to be some big winners. It's had some rocky moments, I think, the Fanatics and Tops. There's been some stuff. But you can't deny that it feels directionally right is my observation.

I don't know if there's any losers. I won't go that far, but there's definitely going to be some big winners. It's had some rocky moments, I think, the Fanatics and Tops. There's been some stuff. But you can't deny that it feels directionally right is my observation.

Did that deal need to happen, though? Pardon? The Panini tops, did that deal need to happen, though? Would it have been better for the industry? Yeah.

Did that deal need to happen, though? Pardon? The Panini tops, did that deal need to happen, though? Would it have been better for the industry? Yeah.

Did that deal need to happen, though? Pardon? The Panini tops, did that deal need to happen, though? Would it have been better for the industry? Yeah.

Yeah, I know. Everything is so polarizing. It's all black and white. You know, like, I mean, but in sports, you kind of – it feels like you can – I mean, you're always rooting for one team or the other, but it just feels – it's different than, you know, the shit that's out there that is just – and polarizing. I don't feel like fandom is polarizing. It's just fandom.