Ryan Bodenheimer
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You couldn't really prep.
Not really.
But I just kind of stuck by what I believe in and the things that I've learned.
And I was just honestly hoping to share a different perspective.
For sure.
And he opened it up and let me do it.
And then Pierce and I got into a little debate.
But again, it wasn't like a toxic debate.
It was actually learning what's going on on both sides.
Right.
Instead of attacking or anything like that, it was like, no, who's got the better information here or who's got information that we can both learn from?
Yeah.
What are you saying exactly that people find controversial, I guess?
Yeah.
I think in that case, you know, a lot of people right now, it's become super political for the Iran conflict where there's almost this side of the political spectrum where people are like, we don't really care if the U.S.
loses as long as we get a political victory.
And my thought is like, well, let's let's win.
Like, I get it.
The war is controversial right now.
It's a ceasefire.