Ryan Broderick

Yeah.

And I think it also speaks to the insidiousness of a lot of this stuff where it does become very hard to separate and that, that gets, it's gotten harder over time.

You know, in, in 2020, we found an article from a trad wife written in this publication, Evie, which I have never heard of Evie.

Is it the big Tradwife magazine?

This is an excerpt I'd like to read to you and sort of get your thoughts on.

So it reads, truth is many people are tired of the constant pressure to feel fulfilled by having it all.

While the career model works for most in this day and age, many don't want to run on the career treadmill and would rather be a housewife and mother.

But these women are told that this isn't enough to want in life and are looked down upon by the mainstream culture and media.

For example, an Australian mother posted on Facebook about how she felt proud of doing housework and preparing breakfast for her husband and children only to be slammed by journalists on national TV.

Why do feminists or the mainstream media depreciate housewives as being extremists or lazy or aggressive?

If feminists truly cared about all women's rights and empowerment, shouldn't they also be cheering on women who choose a life outside the boardroom?

What has become very apparent to me now, because I'm watching a lot of people, we're recording this in the midst of, gosh, I think this is probably day seven or eight of our national discourse about Lindy West's thruple.

Oh my God.

And I'm watching a lot of people talk about mid-2000s and 2010s blogging culture, talking a lot about Jezebel and like,

I had an RSS reader up and running with my favorite blogs in it since I was a freshman in college.

I was reading all of those sites as they became bigger and bigger.

And it's fascinating to watch young people, but also just non-media people, I suppose, misremember that era so explicitly.

And I have to imagine that it's...

like not totally their fault in a way, like because of the way everything moved online and conversation moved onto the internet in the 2010s and not everyone moved with it immediately.

I'm just realizing that there are massive gaps in American culture that like a large chunk of people don't totally understand because it was happening on Twitter and no one was on Twitter in 2015.