Ryan Broderick

And once you, like... This is the thing that, like, all of these kind of journalistic institutions, when they write about this stuff, like, they don't ask...

What, to me, would be the most important question, which is, may I see it?

It's not, are you doing this?

Or just let me see it.

Like, okay, so, like, you're making... Especially if you're going to call someone a psyop.

Yeah, can I look at the numbers and see if this has done anything?

And I think the funnier story is that, like, you know, Partisan Records or whoever's management for Geest or whatever was like...

We're going to pay for this.

That's so lame.

Like that to me is like disqualifyingly lame.

I would sue my label if I found out that they were doing that, if I was a band like Geese.

And the fact that like everyone involved thought it would work is I think a tremendous indictment of what you called late stage clipping.

This idea that short form video is both so important and so meaningless that we're just going to astroturf it.

does it like show that you exist okay let's talk about this because we yeah we you and i have been talking about this probably for six to nine months now which is awesome i've been loving every moment of it panic world and garbage day do not have a an aggressive short form video presence we have a youtube channel that uh is worked on by courier and us uh do i have something no okay

I noticed the other day that we did an entire episode and you didn't tell me I had just a giant black thing on my tooth the whole time.

So I looked like asthma gold.

So we have that and there's an Instagram account, but the Instagram account doesn't really get a lot of traction because Instagram is nightmare.

And over the last like two or three months, I started an experiment with garbage day where I was like, we're going to just shotgun blast short form videos on every major platform.

And I learned a lot.

And it was partly to see if we could get any traction on them.