PREVIEW BONUS: Clavicular's crash out and the death of clipping
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Which would you rather consume for an hour? One, listen to geese. Two, clavicular live streams. Three, Iran AI propaganda. Or, yeah, let's leave it at those three.
When you asked me about what I wanted to talk about today, I threw a bunch of things at you, but did not explain in any way, I think, how they are connected. So we should probably start there. But in terms of your question, if I had to rank them, I would say clavicular clips, then Iran war propaganda, and then listen to geese. I don't enjoy like Gen Z burnout music. I think it's very boring. I've become a geese fan.
Yeah, that's not surprising.
Like you're chasing, you're well into some sort of midlife crisis territory. That makes sense. Geese to me sounds like a dishwasher that broke or like they're the musical equivalent of when you try on your dad's clothes as a kid, you know, and you like walk around in his big shoes.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying. It falls on our spectrum. We have a lot of overlap. And then you go more pop punk ska-y than I do. And then I'm on the indie sad boy train. And they're from a lot of those inferences.
To call them sad, I think, is ridiculous. I find nothing emotional about their music. And I have felt this way about... every brooklyn hipster band du jour going back since i can remember i don't find anything interesting about the kind of like what about big thief yeah i mean whatever man okay yeah say what about the black keys like all of this stuff is just like very boring to me they're just yeah geese is fine i i like their i like their instrumentation i don't i don't love the vocals
Yeah, I wouldn't expect you to get it. It's all right. I have a bonus question for you. Would you rather listen to an hour of geese or an hour of Lena Dunham's audiobook?
Lena Dunham's audiobook. Absolutely. For the stuff that I've been reading from it is wild. I think she's... Look, one of the greatest jump scares of my pop cultural life was finishing the first episode of Industry. and seeing Lena Dunham directed it. And I was like, yeah, Lena Dunham can throw heaters. People forget that she is good. Lena Dunham is annoying, but that's fine. But she makes really good stuff, I think. I fell off of Girls, though. I should probably finish it.
I'm Grant Irving. This is Panic World, a show about how the internet warps our minds, our culture, and eventually reality. And joining me, a man who is not geese-maxing, a man that is not sad-swaying, mogging at the club, Ryan Broderick. Who says geese is sad? I don't understand. What are you talking about? I don't get it. Yeah, that is how you probably would think about it. It's alright, though. Like... I don't see the emotion there.
We can just move on. The reason I brought up these three things to you and you're like, we should do a bonus is because I have a theory I've been cooking on. And it is related to much of this. But first, I want to take control. Shocking. Shocking. I'm going to be showing you things. So first, I want to show you this incredible document that I've discovered. Can you see what this is?
If I move real close to my screen...
So basically, this is Kik users ranked by clips in a month, the amount of clips produced. Clavicular is 2.2 billion views, 69,000 videos, 1,600 clippers. Nina Drama is 880,000. No, 880 million. Wow, these view counts are insane. These view counts are aggregate across all of the clips, by the way.
So they're just our contemporaries. That's what you're saying.
Yeah, Asmongold is in here. Aiden Ross is in here. We should probably do an episode on him at some point. A lot of these people I've never heard of. I have no idea who Nino Drama is. Oh, Neon I'm familiar with. He's a scumbag. We should probably do an episode about him. Oh, and this is a chart that Clavicular shared himself. And I wanted to start there because I think this is probably the most accurate way to think about popularity on the internet right now. And it's in line with my personal belief that the minute something on the internet has a name, it is effectively already over.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–4:53
2
How does Clavicular's crash relate to the downfall of short-form video?
4:53–11:57
3
What makes livestreaming different from short-form video platforms?
11:57–16:07
4
Why do viewers engage with nuisance streamers like Johnny Somali?
16:07–23:00
5
How has the perception of viral content changed over time?
23:00–30:20
6
What implications does the rise of clipping have on content creators?
30:20–33:29