Ryan Buckley

Kind of late 2010, early 2011.

We were using a software called Genius.

I think Marketo was still a relatively new technology at that point.

So it was Genius plugged into Marketo that would help us run drip campaigns.

And then that was actually when I learned to program.

The first language I learned was Python and was using Python scripts to scrape websites and guess email addresses.

And that became those Python scripts, although I've iterated on them.

dozens and dozens of times and two for is not even in Python anymore.

Um, that, that was kind of the germ for that became twofer.

Yeah, well, a good question.

I mean, that company is kind of morphed and this, and like later on been acquired and it wasn't core technology to that company.

Uh,

And I think like two for still is like vastly different than those original scripts were.

So I don't know if they've never asked me about it.

Our, our poo right now is $180.

Okay.

Uh, yeah, I think I put the paywall up in 2013.

Um, initially, so, so started doing like kind of learned the process while I was at, at this company called rap leaf.

And then, um, and then really started to use it in the early days of scripted and it worked really well.

And my friends were like, shoot, and like, how are you doing that?