Ryan Burge

Now, some of them are multi-site.

They might have 10 or 12 different campuses around a metro area, but the vast majority of them, that's it.

Like, that's their entire locus of control.

And those are the kind of churches that are really taking over because I think people like the idea of they're anti-institutional.

I mean, some of those pastors are proud of the fact that they didn't have to seek permission to start the church.

They're proud of the fact they have very little theology.

God did this.

And I think people like the accountability factor too, because when you put a hundred bucks in the plate, that hundred bucks is decided where it goes by people sitting in that room right there.

The elders, the deacons, the pastor are all right in front of you.

And you can talk to them on any Sunday, where if you gave money to the Catholic church,

Some of that goes to some diocese in the Vatican and it goes away and we don't know where it goes.

Or even, you know, Baptists or Methodists, the money goes somewhere else.

In those churches, the accountability structure, the decision-making structure are all right there.

You know, bureaucracy, we hate bureaucracy, especially when it's nameless and faceless.

Guess what?

Non-denoms have almost no bureaucracy.

And so I think that's the attractive factor for them is the accountability's close.

It feels very like renegade-ish, right?

It's like, screw what everyone wants us to do.

We're going to start a church because God wants us to.