Ryan Burge

And, you know, it just sort of becomes this organic growth.

A lot of these guys don't have a whole lot of theological training.

A lot of these guys sort of, it just happened to them.

I think it's like in many ways is the evidence of the great reversal, I call it, in American society where we used to be very top down, very hierarchical, very structured.

If you wanted to be a pastor, you had to go through an ordination process.

You had to get approval of a certain denomination.

Then they would place you.

in a congregation.

Even if you didn't want to be there, they'd put you where they wanted you to be.

This is the absolute opposite of that.

They don't ask permission for anyone to start a church.

A lot of these guys aren't ordained.

A lot of them have very little or no theological training.

In some ways, I think it's the epitome of the social media internet, too.

It's

You can build a following up online, and then it sort of becomes this whole thing.

And these churches are popping up by the thousands all across America.

And they actually are methodologically incredibly problematic for people like me, because how do you track these groups when they don't report to anyone?

They don't have national meetings because there is no national denomination.

It's literally a denomination of one, one church.