Ryan Carson

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The Startup Ideas Podcast · Most Valuable Skill of 2026: Managing AI Agents · 24 Jul 2026 podcast

How does this work?

Okay, everyone's talking about self-improvement, right?

So in Untangle, we have an agent called Grace, and she is essentially a paralegal.

And she has a lot of chats with both our customers who are attorneys, our customers who are paralegals, and their customers who are clients that are getting divorced.

So how do I actually grade those chats and then improve them without...

managing the fine details so what i do is i every day i have an automation that looks at these chats and then grades them on a rubric and so you and again just talk to your agent about this you pick the most important part of your app that you want to self-improve and say here's how you agent judge whether this thing that happens is good or bad and then every day i want this automation to kick off look at those things for us there are conversations that grace is having

And then I want you to grade them.

And then if anything is bad or below this score, I want you to kick off a child session and fix it.

And it is shocking to me the number of small kids

You know, find UX details that have been picked up by this loop and have been fixed.

And honestly, there are things that I wouldn't bother doing.

Either I didn't know about them or I'd be like, you know, it's a paper cut.

Like, are we really going to ship a fix to that?

But because the agent already identified it, spun up a PR and it's ready to ship, I just go ship it.

And we probably ship, I would say, probably three of these a day.

Here's the thing.

Last month I spent probably $20,000 in tokens, which is just too much.

It's not viable.

I think all of us are in a place where

we were getting to the spot where it's realizing, okay, for real engineering work per employee, you're looking at probably five grand a month.

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