Ryan Coogler

Well, yeah, like, so the history of how the Blues kind of became this instrument of, like, global cultural change was really interesting.

Like, the Delta Blues-

When the record industry came, they made those records, race records.

And this was a time where, you know, the country was segregated.

And the record industry was a product of that.

So they would kind of put race records over here, anything made by a black person.

The same record made by a white person, I'd call that maybe rock and roll or bluegrass or country.

And black musicians, when...

The record industry was burgeoning.

They couldn't tour.

But their records would travel overseas.

And a lot of bands in Europe kind of fell in love with the music, like maybe most famously the Rolling Stones, for instance, or the Beatles.

And then those guys would come to the States and seek out these musicians and then take them on their European tours as opening acts.

Right, right.

And in Sweden, Ludwig's father saw, I believe, John Lee Hooker and Albert King.

Yeah, that's what he said.

Yeah, yeah.

And was so inspired by seeing him that he decided that he wanted to become a Bulls guitarist and became one.

And when he had his first son, who was Ludwig,

you know, he introduced him to guitar lessons, you know.