Ryan Graves
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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We don't have whistleblowers doing that, and I think some of the messaging has been inaccurate claiming that we need to have stronger whistleblower protection laws because that's probably not going to happen. I don't think Trump wants stronger whistleblower protections. I don't think he wants to enable people that would be calling out actions of the executive branch to Congress strengthened.
That's not necessarily aligned with some of the activities that happened with Colonel Vindman and the Ukraine incident where they essentially utilize those whistleblower laws to share information with Congress about what they perceived as wrongdoings. So I don't see those laws getting stronger.
But we're in this kind of weird false dichotomy right now where people are asking for them and not willing to come forward. But ultimately, I think we just need someone to step up to the plate and come forward to Congress with this information to be able to move the conversation forward on the disclosure side.
In like the broader conversation or specifically New Jersey?
It's clear to me based off of all my research and connections and conversations, a couple things. One, people are absolutely seeing things that seem to be exhibiting capabilities beyond the state of the art. Like boom, end of conversation right there.
That's an interesting one. Multiple witnesses seeing capabilities of craft operating in flight regimes that we don't have the technology to do. So that's step one. Step two is I've been a lot like a blind man touching an elephant. You know, I don't know necessarily it's an elephant yet, but I'm feeling a tail, feeling a trunk, feeling the foot.
And what that elephant represents is the government's classified work on this topic. I've butted up against it through people that have been actively engaged in programs that are investigating this in ways that are not public. So I know that there is something there behind the scenes. I don't know how deep it goes.
I don't know specifically the type of like the total amount of work that's being done. But it's very clear to me that there are boundaries that I've touched and others have touched that represent that work.
so it would make sense it would be a line that the government would be very interested in this technology and i think it's you know i think it's time that we've we put the proper protocols and processes in place so that the public can discover this information we have the technology joe like this it's not that we don't have the technology i mean i'm personally working on space situational awareness sensors that we can put in space in order to maintain custody of these objects
I think that there was probably a presidential order at some point in the past that is likely still in effect. And, you know, unless another president is fully read in and countermans that order, then it's business as usual.
And perhaps that's one of the reasons they don't tell presidents a lot of information on this is because they want to maintain the effect of authority, keep it in play so that another president doesn't countermand it.
And we might have integrated some of these capabilities into some of our technology that we might look out the window and see, right? But deep in the bowels of the system, you know, there might be capabilities that were discovered or motivated through the investigation of these objects, right? So I could see why I agree with you 100%, right?
And I don't believe that 100% of the information should come out. You know, I mean, I've worked in secured information. I've worked in the military. I understand the need for these capabilities. But the core information that we're not alone in the universe, potentially, there's no government on Earth that has a right to hold that information.
Think about how that would motivate us as a populace to have this carrot on a stick out to say, here's here's how we access the rest of the galaxy.
Right. Imagine what that would do to our technological innovation. How many millions of kids right now would go to school in order to be engineers and scientists to be able to work on this? It would completely change the world.
Maybe we'd have less Facebook apps and things of that nature and AI wrappers, but we would be working on deep, important technology that's going to unlock the rest of the universe to us.
Well, maybe we'd be better prepared.
It's like we're in a phase where our technological development is outpacing our social and moral development.
It must be a hell of a time to come watch us, right?
Do you hit a wall? Do they just, quote unquote, know everything, right? Right. And then maybe that's what allows their moral compass and their biology to catch up?
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