Ryan Grim

But I do think there is a general, from my lens, a sense looking backwards that people were feeling economically populist.

And so the more that the campaign would have been focused on that, the better off we would have been.

But there were a lot of reasons in a short period that we didn't end up going in that direction and internal debates and things like that.

Um, you know, ultimately, um, I think if you look backwards, that was one of the reasons the brand was, was a little all over the place and hard to reach.

There was this moment where for a few days she was using that kind of populist language and then Cuban and Hoffman pushed back and they drop it.

What's it like inside the campaign?

Like how do the, like you see Mark Cuban on TV or you see Reid Hoffman complaining, like what's,

Just internally, how does that filter into decision-making where she's changing her language?

It's hard for me to say.

On that specific feedback loop, I don't know that I was part of it.

I don't have a total lens on what the osmosis is on all of that.

Certainly, there was a broad pushback when more populist language was used.

There was broad pushback when less populist language was used.

I think all of that gets taken in and gets taken on board.

But again, I think we sort of found ourselves in this position where there were just a lot of equities pushing on the campaign and I think we sort of went down a lot of different rabbit holes and found ourselves sort of adding up to

Not quite the whole of the sum of our parts.

Right.

You made an interesting YouTube comment, which kind of dovetails with the whole Joe Rogan controversy, which you were part of.

And we can put up D3 here.

You wrote, the whole country is on YouTube and uses it in ways that feel completely out of alignment with how I use it.