Ryan Hanley

So I think, you know, just take a little pressure off yourself, guys, when you're building these companies and you're early, I think.

there's a lot of stress that I think founders put on themselves to, to be, to be mature faster than maybe is even a positive, right?

I think some of some, sometimes immaturity in certain places helps you look at problems differently, ask for help from people.

etc.

When we when we race to maturity really fast that we sometimes get this idea that like we're supposed to know everything and we're supposed to know how a board meeting works and we're supposed to know how every system and it's like that.

I've talked to very successful people on this show 100 million plus, you know, exits and all this different stuff.

And and they'll even tell you the day they're exiting 1015 years of business.

They still don't feel like they have everything lined up.

So it's like, you know, there's there's I think sometimes, especially early or first time founders, et cetera.

They put so much pressure on themselves to be perfect when I don't know that anyone, you know, and I guess maybe I'm just looking for validation on this.

Like you're not expecting them to be perfect when they start talking to you.

Now, you also sit on the board of directors of GameStop still today.

Yep.

Were you on the board during the big, what was it, the Reddit run-up or whatever, the message board when everyone was going and driving the price all over the place?

Were you there when that was going on?

Yeah.

Now, just I know you weren't there during the time, but I'm sure you've had discussions about that moment since.

And I know even there's been a couple secondary tries at doing a similar run up and it hasn't worked as well, et cetera.

Like when you're when you're sitting on a board and, you know, I've never sat on the board of a public company.

So, you know, this is experience that I don't have.