Ryan Hanley

I'm very interested.

Like and you see like.

you see that kind of like your stock price, everyone looks at a company basically if you're, you know, and I'd say particularly amateur or unsophisticated investors, and they basically just look at price and they look at how much they're willing to spend on something and they put this arbitrary value on it, right?

When you're sitting there as a board member and you really understand how these market dynamics work and you watch something like, you know, some price manipulation happening, which is what was happening, right?

I mean, they were, people were driving the price up and, you know, obviously it came back down.

But how do you handle that as a public company and managing what's happening with a stock price and having to hit quarterly earnings and all that kind of stuff versus the private company world where...

you're not necessarily on that time clock if you're able to pay your bills, right?

As long as you're not running out of money, you're not necessarily on a clock.

Like with a publicly traded company, you have to do quarterly earnings reports, you have people pushing price up, pushing down, shorts, you know, all these different things that you have to deal with.

Like, how do you manage the value of the company

and just what are some of the things you have to consider public versus private?

Awesome.

All right.

Well, I want to transition into what you're seeing in the market today because I have a bunch of questions from where you sit and what you think about.

First, first, I want to go to crypto.

Right.

In general, is this a space you follow?

And to like, obviously, we've seen a big move down.

Bitcoin actually was it's kind of bounced back up a little bit.

But as of last week.