Ryan Hanley

Because I think a lot of people might just think,

this guy's a dick, he's always been one, you know what I mean?

Like that's the way he is, he was born that way, you know, whatever.

But I don't think, and this is what really intrigued me about your work was, I don't think people think that they can be actually created, right?

Like someone could be maybe a normal person and somehow become a bad boss because they're made into that.

So maybe we can start there.

I'd love to start with stress.

Because I think that one, the other two I want to get to as well.

But in particular, I think every single human on the planet right now, in some regard, right, is feeling stress, right.

And I actually just had this conversation with a guest a few weeks ago, around particularly,

the impact of inflation in the US and how I do not think that there is an honest conversation happening on either side of the aisle about the impact

that the increased cost of simply living your life is having, and you know, how do we, when we're feeling these, not acute stresses, but these dull ongoing stresses that feel like there's like, we don't have control over them.

Like if you go to the grocery store and your bill used to be $150 a week, and now it's $250 a week, you feel like you can't control that.

How do we manage that dull ongoing stress as a leader and not let it leak into how we perform in our job?

Yeah, I completely agree.

We've been saying here on the show for a long time that health is a competitive advantage in business.

Yes, it is.

And far too...

Far too few leaders actually, they may give lip service to that idea, but a lot of times, and I do a lot of entrepreneur coaching, startup coaching, and these guys are so tilted, and by guys and gals, whoever the leader is, they are so tense 24-7.

They are just dialed all the time, and they're not taught the coping mechanisms properly.