Ryan Hanley

Sure.

And it was a way, and this is kind of what I would love for you to comment on is like,

Again, looking back, retrospect, at the time, maybe I wasn't as sophisticated enough or mature enough in my career to understand what was happening.

But it was a way for him to justify the crappy things that he would do, say, etc.

Because he'd be like, well, I got this thing going on between me and my wife over here.

So I can just yell at you because I don't like the way you responded or whatever.

So-

One, I guess, maybe from the teammate's perspective, when you see this,

we'll call it toxic vulnerability being used as an excuse mechanism for bad boss behavior.

How do you deal with that?

What about someone who would push back and say, but if I shut that down, am I going to be penalized by it?

I'm worried I'm going to be penalized by this person if I don't just take in all the crap they're dumping on me.

Yeah, I love that point.

I think I think that's perfectly put because it's very easy because of your own stress or your own timelines to get frustrated by that lost time.

And I know early in my career, I fairly severe ADHD, diagnosed, not self diagnosed.

And early in my career, I didn't understand why I responded to people in certain ways, right?

Because like,

I would be like, I'm going like this all the time.

And I'm like, why can't you keep up?

Like, why are you wasting time?