Ryan Hanley

We used to say in my company, it's not about being right, it's about getting it right.

It's all that matters.

We're of service of each other.

And this is how I coach founders today because exactly what you say, they look at it and it's like, you don't realize CEO is a job.

President is a job.

It's not sales, it's not marketing, it's not HR.

it's a job in and of itself to come behind them and make those positions as good as they can be, because that's what they do.

HR does HR, sales is sales, right?

And that is not taught anywhere, right?

Or just not enough in my opinion.

And to your point, like you got this position and they were just like, here's a bunch of people, go make them successful, right?

And there's no training on being that.

And even a lot of management training

is like all about, and I'm not knocking measure what matters, but I feel like people read the title and get the concept completely wrong, right?

They're like, we need to measure everything.

And all that matters is measurement.

And it's like, well, yeah, I mean, you got to hit numbers.

You're a business.

You need to be profitable, obviously, but that's not actually what produces results.

And so I,