Ryan Hanley

I, the best advice I ever got from a mentor in my life was in 2017, I was having a very dark moment and you know, I've also, you know, we've all dealt with our stuff and whatever.

And, and he said,

Go find a counselor, someone you're not related to or isn't a friend that you pay money to and see them every other week for the rest of your life and just consider it a life expense.

So I've been doing that.

And this is just advocating for therapy or counseling in general for the audience at home who may, you know, especially guys.

I think there are still guys in the community that feel like this is not masculine or that somehow it makes them less or weak.

And I can tell you it is the exact opposite.

I have felt my strongest when I was the most consistent with therapy, with talking about these things.

And the data points that I have is, so I exited, I sold and exited my own company in 2024.

And in the last two years, I've had two dark patches.

And both of those patches are when I got away from the therapy and the counseling.

So here's where my question drops in.

I think a lot of guys, I think that what you're doing could be a gateway for a lot of men in particular who may feel uncomfortable going and sitting down with someone.

They don't want to have a friend drive by and see them walking into a therapy, you know, someone's clinic or something.

So do you have any hesitations?

Do you have like just in general, what are your thoughts around that?

you know, working with an AI therapist.

Cause I think some, it may be a really good gateway for a lot of guys.

And I'm so glad you brought this up.

We've never talked about on the show before, like how did, how would you kind of, what would be the sales pitch for those guys to say here, here's a really good way to start getting these thoughts out of your head.