Ryan Hanley

And I'll be honest, I appreciate and feel honored that you're willing to talk about it here because it's one of the things that like piece of feedback that I get the most about this show is that, you know, I try as much as I can to be open with the things that I've dealt with, especially in this space.

Cause we all have, you know what I mean?

It's, it's, I, I, I want, you know, it's not the purpose of this show, but as much as I can for men and for women tear down this idea that, um, I,

there is a part of me that's like some of the feely stuff we need to like, not be so reliant on our emotions.

Right.

But, but we can't bottle these thoughts in our heads and we can't, because what happens is that we start ruminating and, and I think, you know, if, I don't know if you've ever read the untethered soul by Michael Singer.

Of course.

Yeah.

Dude, that book, like,

open my mind to this idea, you know, and for those who haven't read the book, I highly recommend a hundred pages of fast read.

He's got, he's got a ton of other work.

It's all amazing, but you know, I like the starting point of this, of the untethered soul only because it's like that voice in your head is not you.

Right.

And when you, when you can, when you, when you can, when you can control your emotional reaction to the voice in your head,

the unlocks to your point of peak performance of, of, of being able to get to the fact where you can actually go to your media tour as an artist versus a businessman.

Cause even if Sonya tells you, if you're still thinking that voice in your head is you, you're going, yeah, I know Sonya told me to be an artist, but you know, she doesn't really know what she's talking about.

Like I'm a businessman.

I gotta go be a business, you know, and now you carry all that stress with you.

And like this, this ability to get this crap out of our face and,

you know, it's so important and it, and it, so I guess I want to tie this.