Ryan Holiday

And I sometimes struggle with those.

That's not exactly how I think about it.

Yeah.

You know, continual awareness of all time and space, of the size and life and the span of things around us, a grapeseed in infinite space, a half twist of a corkscrew against eternity.

So there's something about that that seems kind of sad and insignificant.

And then book 10, 16, the one immediately above it, he says, to stop talking about what a good man is like and just be one.

So there's this kind of tension in Marcus Aurelius where he's like, we're all infinitesimal and small and don't matter.

And, you know, nothing lasts.

And then he's like, but make sure you do good stuff.

You know, that tension sometimes strikes me.

And I think I've wrestled with that for quite some time as I've read meditations.

And I sometimes wonder, like, if you saw him the day that he wrote that, would you be like, oh, he was just in a mood that day?

You know, where is he coming to from that?

I think about that quite often.

Yeah, great question.

Let's do Joseph.

Yeah, I think what he's saying is, first off, that we're all sort of part of this, you know, interconnected universe.

And so when we harm one thing, we harm all things.

But I think he's also saying that they're harming themselves by making themselves the kind of person that would do that thing.

Right.