Ryan Montgomery

Well, boy, she fucked that one up, didn't she?

Well, it's my honor, man.

But, you know, I...

I forgot about the Veritas stuff, because we had to coordinate release of the episode with them.

Yeah.

I forgot about that.

And yeah, there was some other publication that they're like, we got to wait and see if this goes.

And I remember having a conversation with you, and I was like, dude, what we have here is 10 times any of the publications that they're talking about, and this is going to fucking send.

And it did.

It wound up being...

the most viewed most downloaded biggest episode i've ever done still to this date and um and you know i remember reaching out to you i remember the fbi stuff the fbi wouldn't take you seriously i was so upset you know and and also this is like you were the first person that i dove into this subject with because i had heard so much about it

But I don't trust non-profits.

But me and you talk a lot about that offline.

I just don't trust them anymore.

I've seen too many that started off with good intentions that go, you know, array, and it becomes all about fucking raising money and not about whatever the actual mission

Was and he didn't have any of that, you know, and I could tell like on that post, I was like, this guy's just trying to get information out.

And so so, yeah, reached out, tried to coordinate everything with Veritas.

They wanted to do the story.

And I remember telling you something along the lines like, fuck these people, dude, let's just run it.

I don't think it could have gone any better than it did, to be honest with you.