Ryan Poles

I think it's learning through that chaos.

I separated myself.

I really did get off of kind of looking at everything.

I was listening to a podcast.

I think your name is Brene Brown.

And she said the algorithm in social media is to validate what you already believe or to show you what you fear the most.

And as it hit me, and no one's described it that way, I was like, if I'm going to leave this organization, I have to get off of that.

Because if I'm acting out of fear or acting out of closed-mindedness, then we're not going to be in a good spot.

And that's given me a lot of freedom to kind of weather the storm, but to see things the way they are.

There's a couple situations, even with Caleb, where for some reason when things just feel like they're ebbing away from you, it almost validates like,

especially the noise part of it, you're close.

You talked about a young, talented kid.

They get a lot of crap from the outside world.

To me, they see the talent.

They see what this could be.

Let's just keep pushing forward and get through this and get to the other side.

This year felt like a little bit of a breakthrough.

I know you can't take success from...

Yeah, it's definitely a priority.

There's a lot going on right now.