Ryan Rogers

If you don't vote like I do, you must not respect all these populations.

But it feels like they're the ones who are not respecting the autonomy of these populations to choose politically what they want.

So I want to dig into the politicization of therapy from the perspective of clients you see.

So I've talked to a number of therapists who say politics are much more on the mind of their clients than they used to be.

And you're having to unpack a lot of political stress.

So what have you seen in that regard?

It's the process.

I don't think that's ever happened to me before.

That was weird.

I hope you had a good chat without me.

Awesome.

So I think kind of touching on the perspective that as a progressive, they have something to offer clients that you don't.

I'm wondering, is there something, some either perspective or techniques or values that you have as a conservative therapist that you feel like the mainstream of the field is missing?

Yeah.

I like that.

Pamela, that's such an interesting idea because I feel like from the progressive narrative is like they're the ones who were like sticking it to the man and challenging the system.

And it's like you just believe whatever the system tells you.

Yeah.

Nothing works.

This was great.