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Ryan Sean Adams

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

Does that cost curve...

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

Like what happens to that cost curve over time?

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

Does it get cheaper and cheaper to verify as well?

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

Or is that always going to be biologically constrained?

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

But can't AIs help with the verification piece?

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

So isn't the answer to all of that AI-generated code?

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

Well, you have AIs also running to verify these things.

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

Is there another negative externality, I guess, that crops up here, which is like if the cost to automate is going down, but we're sort of bounded by this verification, right?

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

It could be tempting to just let automation keep running and just to do less verification.

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

And I'm wondering if an externality pops up, which is sort of a safety and alignment type of externality, which is just a world that we have no idea...

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

Whether the work that's happening is aligned with what we want to actually happen and there's this like oversight weakening, alignment drift happening going on such that the AIs are doing things that only they can comprehend and it's not necessarily an outcome that we want.

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

Is that part of the story here or is that a separate track?

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

You use this term in your thread too, hollow economy.

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

And that does remind me a little bit of the Citrini post that we talked about at the very beginning.

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

What's your concept of a hollow economy and what scenario could that happen?

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

Like all the measurable things like GDP and growth, that kind of thing is looking green?

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

David wants to say he's going to be safe.

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

Don't worry, man.

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

You're going to be safe, David.

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The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini

It's okay.