Ryan Sean Adams

Like your actions are getting information about you is getting exposed to other people.

So adding a new feature does not necessarily stop the information from leaking.

In order to do that, you have to like stop using everything else because when you use the other thing, the old thing, information leaks, right?

So it's possible, I think.

I've gone around in the past and said like it's never going to work.

Like the underlying layers will always be leaking information about you.

Therefore, it doesn't matter what you add on top.

You're still never going to get privacy that way.

And Vitalik forced me to back off on that by like arguing.

and showing me I wasn't wrong.

It's possible, but it's really hard.

I'm not surprised it's taken five years and isn't done yet.

Well, Zcash is also improving over time.

Hmm.

I like the Anoma folks and they've just launched a thing which includes privacy.

I don't know how it works.

I like the concepts of Railgun and Tornado Cache.

Like the current cutting edge within Zcash is we've already fixed the blockchain level black hole.

And now the current cutting edge of where the privacy and security and UX problems are, are in the wallets, the mobile wallets.

I don't know if Ethereum people have even started trying to fix that level.