Ryan Sean Adams

Bitcoin gets attacked in some of the ways we've described or there's this treasure hunt going on and there's this market uncertainty as to the outcome.

I think what Nick is saying is like, don't cheer for that because that's going to be bad for every chain in crypto.

And he's further saying, so goes Bitcoin, so goes everybody else.

If you want a meme of a store of value internet money, Bitcoin has to lead that charge.

There's no such thing as a flippening type scenario of Ethereum community being able to say, hey, look, our chain is post-quantum secure and we don't have the problems that Bitcoin does.

He's saying that this will take the entire crypto space down, at least from an internet money store of value perspective.

So what do we get at the end of this?

So 2030, Ethereum is post-quantum secure.

Well,

What's, you know, what does Ethereum become?

Is it sort of the only one in its class or do you expect all other blockchains to kind of follow in its footsteps and to also achieve post-quantum security?

Like at that point in time, like what is Ethereum up to?

I know there's a broader roadmap here, but it does seem like a feather in the cap of being post-quantum secure to the extent that that quantum is on the horizon in the 2030s.

But can you describe the system that we have in 2030 if all of this comes to pass?

We are in a very interesting time with respect to computing, Justin.

There seem to be these three kind of computing platforms and paradigms that are really at the frontier, shaking things up in ways that will interact with each other and the ways that will change the course of human history.

One is AI, of course, and everyone is aware of what's going on there.

And where does that lead?

And then we also have quantum, which is maybe where AI was in the 2010s.

Maybe we're in