Ryan Sean Adams

2018 quantum, something like that as compared to AI.

So we have quantum and what's that going to shake up?

And then we also have crypto and cryptography is best exemplified by, I think, blockchains like Ethereum and Bitcoin.

So it almost seems like we're entering kind of a singularity of these three things where like

AI is speeding up quantum and cryptography, and then cryptography is going to be useful as kind of a counter ballast for some of the centralization vectors of AI.

What do you think of all of this mess?

I mean, you're a cryptographer, and you're certainly involved in at least one of these frontiers.

What's going to happen next?

It's very hard to predict.

But when you talk this way about Bitcoin, Justin, it almost makes me think that you no longer think Bitcoin should be sort of the vanguard of this crypto movement.

Yeah.

It's almost the framing of this is almost like Bitcoin has some flaws from a security budget perspective, from a quantum perspective.

And Ethereum is going to be here to kind of lead crypto after, you know, if Bitcoin can't get past some of these flaws.

Justin, when we were talking about these three compute technologies, it does feel like the one that sticks out is AI.

And you were talking about 2032 being sort of maybe an AGI type moment.

One just general question I have is, as you are a human, an extremely talented cryptographer,

extremely intelligent, particularly within your domain, but you are not an AGI.

You are not artificial general intelligence.

And the concern is, as we enter into that computing singularity, that all bets are off when it comes to AGI.

Like all of the well-laid plans we make in 2026 to have our blockchains be quantum resistant and