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Ryan Sean Adams

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

That's exactly it.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Just to be clear on the 250K, I know this is not a price prediction, let's say, but this is a natural implication that falls out of your essay if you're right about ETH being this monetary unit, this productive money as you talk about it, right?

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So where do we get that 250K per ETH number?

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Can you drill in on that?

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Okay, so you're saying if you just take Bitcoin and gold alone, which are clearly store value assets, you get $30 trillion, let's say.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And if you divide that by the supply of ETH, you get to a unit price per ETH of 250K if ETH were to go take all of that market share.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

But you're also saying there's more than that.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

$30 trillion in terms of store of value type assets because there's some store of value, some monetary premium in, let's say, collectibles or art or the S&P 500 or other ways that we essentially teleport our wealth into the future.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And those have some monetary premium associated with it.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

It all depends...

Bankless
Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

what you think, how much you think of the total monetary premium that's available, how much you think ETH can capture with respect to market share.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Is that the right way to think about it?

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Exactly.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Let's bring Carl Menger in the picture here.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So the title of your essay is ETH is Productive Money.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Let's focus on the money part.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And this is what Carl Menger, I think, was quite obsessed with.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So he is the founder of the Austrian school

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

economics, late 1800s, early 1900s.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And he had a definition of money from the Austrian school that seems to be quite accurate and seems to persist across time.