Ryan Sean Adams

And you've given a fantastic rationale.

But in order for a money to actually become a monetary unit, we got to go convince a whole bunch of other people.

And I guess what's stopping that from happening?

Or why hasn't that happened?

Why is Ethereum grouped as a technology?

And why is the asset under-talked about, under-explained, under-appreciated so much?

And how do we change that?

This is a question, though, or maybe a critic might say, OK, so if Bitcoin is kind of got some store of value, moneyness, monetary premium.

Right.

And then and then Ether does as well.

Well, then you're opening the door to every single crypto asset down the stack to also become a monetary asset.

Is the door open for a Solana to do this, for a Cardano to do this, for an XRP to do this as well?

Any other L1?

Is this just the trajectory that all L1s take or is there something different about a Bitcoin and Ethereum?

And so for investors who've maybe gotten to this point in the podcast and they hear the point about productive asset a lot, and they're still asking themselves, but if you guys like productive assets so much, why not just do the Buffett strategy and buy the S&P?

What would you say to them?

Why not just buy the S&P?

When you guys think about risk, this thesis that ETH is a store value asset, that's a productive money, like what are the core risks to this?

Like what would make this not true?

So in order to get there, all the way to 250K, we've got a long road ahead.