Ryan Sean Adams

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4,484 appearances 13 recordings 1 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard 14 May

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Bankless · The Economics of AGI: Why Verification Is the New Scarcity w/ Christian Catalini · 26 Mar 2026 podcast

That'll be the thing that we focus on.

What exactly do you mean by verification?

Because it's hard for me to break down the work items I do in a particular day and map out which ones are cognitive work items versus which ones are the verification work items.

What does verification really mean?

But Christian, isn't this an example, the example that David just gave of like, he's starting with verification right now, right?

He's able to verify these explosions and he's got sort of just like maybe an average level of, he doesn't have military expertise, right?

So he can't get there.

But then it moves up to the military commander being, and pretty soon the military commander cannot verify it either.

And he has to outsource it to AI to begin with.

Isn't this just another example of something that has the ability to get measured?

And I guess you can measure how well a video matches

reality and what reality looks like?

Isn't this just an example of verification being valuable at first, but then getting quickly automated again by AI?

So even verification is not safe in this model.

Okay, so shrinking frontier.

So that is the idea of the codifier's curse.

It's basically like, you know, this is humanity's last job is what you're saying is verification.

But even that last job is we're all standing on an iceberg and that iceberg is kind of slowly melting away and the surface area is getting smaller and smaller even on the verification front, right?

So the iceberg actually will get bigger in some ways, which is kind of the non-measurable human...

status type games, human subjective preference types games, that's where I guess the economy for humans will expand and the job opportunities for humans will expand.

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