Ryan Shelton

I'm guessing with all its homies, it still doesn't have the ability to go, we're just going to look at threats for the baby.

It just goes, let's look at threats for everything.

Oh, that's a long time for some people, if they're lucky.

I should probably mention, you mentioned OCD there, something that Penny obviously struggles with.

Yeah.

And matrescence absolutely took it to some pretty dark places and still does.

You had an incredible chat with Penny on her podcast, It's Not What You Think.

So we'll link to that if someone listening has, because I mean, you could do a whole episode, a whole series on OCD with matrescence.

So we'll put a link to that if that's you and you want to know more.

Yeah.

So we talked about specifically the threat centers heightened.

So there must be a lot of worry that takes place.

And I'm just thinking back on Penny's experience together with this, but there was a lot of anxiety for Penny around different things.

And I just wonder, I'm sure it's very common.

How do you know the difference between what's like reasonable worry and probably due to atrescence or when does it become normal?

Potentially an anxiety disorder.

I don't think that's the right thing to say.

Yeah, okay.

That's another business idea for you.

Baby manual.