Ryan Shelton

So for people who've been listening for a while, you'll know that I also work in television.

I've been trying to make my own TV show for a long, long time.

And for the last couple of years, I have been developing my own show with a few other people.

And so what you'll hear is us having that initial chat and then you'll hear us reacting to that a week later.

So there's a bit of a chat within a chat within a chat.

Yeah.

So, yeah, so this was Familiar in the Year on A Little More Imperfects.

Uh, so I just, I wanted to just have a quick chat because, um, I don't even really know why I'm talking about this.

Well, I guess I do know why, but, uh, so just, and I think the only reason I am is because I've only just found this out and I just thought, well, I'll just talk about it because I just fortuitously happened to not fortuitous, but I just happened to

find out while we were just at lunch.

We were just having lunch, having a great lunch.

And I got a message telling me that, so you guys know that my, I've been working on this TV show.

Yeah.

For like...

It feels like 25 years, but for years and years, I've been developing it with the ABC.

And this is like a show that I've been trying to get my TV show, for anyone who's been listening to the podcast for a long time, knows that I've always dreamed of my own TV show.

And anyway, I've just found out that it's not happening.

And it's like, they're basically, they're passing on it, which I'm actually weirdly okay about, but...

it's, it's, uh, yeah, it's just a very, it feels like a weirdly, I've got like the kind of butterflies and I feel like nervous talking about it, not nervous talking about it, but I just feel, I guess like obviously emotional about it a little bit.

Um, not to the extent where I'm, I'm devastated.