Ryan Shelton

I missed that really important conversation that she needed to have.

I just wasn't there.

And that was kind of the moment where I thought, this is ridiculous.

This is a game.

Like, this is a game.

I'm not playing anymore.

Like, I know Josh, you came to this realization a long time ago, but I just thought I'm being played.

Like, this has been sent to me because I knew it would, whatever it takes, get his attention.

I'm not playing this anymore because this person here needs me more right now.

Um, and it was, it was a huge feeling of overwhelm.

And I guess that leads to the question is in all the work you did with, with making this show, how do you think Australians are coping right now with this landscape?

Now, all I saw was a video that showed that she'd been on it and that it had been released on Australia Day and I thought, this is so transparent what you're doing here that I couldn't bear to watch it, which is probably another problem in itself.

Have a lot of emotions but not many facts.

The other night, Penny said to me, she said, oh, my God, you will not believe this video I've seen on Instagram.

It's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

And she showed me and it was a lady who was sleeping and as she fell off her couch, landed on her cat, her cat somehow shot up to the roof, swung around on a fan and it went flying out the window.

She said, it's the most amazing thing I've ever seen.

I said, watch it again.

And we watched it again.

I said, how did the cat get squashed and then fly up to the roof?