Ryan Shelton

I think you're being very harsh on yourself in your back to the future analogy.

I think it's a good analogy and it's a good line, but I don't think it's binary.

Like you don't have to be one or the other.

No, that's true.

I think it's more just that I didn't realize how much of George was in me.

Okay.

How much of that sense of like, I don't want to go for the thing because I don't think I could take that sort of rejection.

Like that definitely is...

yeah, I'm not completely George and I'm certainly not completely Marty.

I'm definitely, but I think I'm more George than Marty McFly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

The other thing I wanted to ask you is that like in your episode that we did, you so beautifully talked about, and it's always stuck with me that.

Is this in season one?

Yeah, sorry, season one, where you had that moment of realisation of like, I think you described it as winning the award, like a fictional award for best comedian in the world.

Would that make you feel...

Yeah, it was when I was sort of trying to, it's when I had like this epiphany where I was trying to imagine if I got everything I ever dreamed of, would it make me happy or how would it feel?

And I kind of realized, I imagined, visualized myself being handed like the Emmy for best comedy and being on the front page of every magazine and literally, literally getting everything I've ever dreamed for.