Ryan Shelton

I don't have to get angry but I also don't have to fix the situation like a parenting genius.

I can just sort of sit in it.

Lie down on the floor.

Yeah, just give up.

No, just have a more realistic expectation for what I'm capable of and do the best I can in this situation and that's okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's really good.

Yeah.

You agree?

Definitely.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, thanks, Josh, and thank you, Inga.

Yes.

What a legend.

So we have another, as I said earlier, we've got another bit to play, which is a little bit, I mean, it's not super, super heavy, but it's sort of an emotional moment that I experienced and we had on a little more Imperfect's

last year.

Hugh, as people know, often strange things happen to you in life, and this could be a good moment to bring one of those out of the back pocket to give us just a touch of the giggles before- Well, I do get to share these stories a lot on- On A Little More Imperfects.

Oh, so at a real starting thing, the time is not always the same.

Hang on.

So what was the, do you remember what the app was called that you were supposed to download?