Ryan Soave

And that might be doing the things like we talked about, laying out, looking at your, your day ahead at the beginning, they might need to look at things like, you know, there's ways and software out there to not be able to look at that on your phone or have an accountability partner that can, you know, you have to, they have to approve websites you go to. And,

And that's not to say that they have to do that forever, but it's something that's available right – 50 years ago or 30 years ago, someone had to like find their dad's porno mag somewhere and then look at it. Now it's on their phones or computers.

And that's not to say that they have to do that forever, but it's something that's available right – 50 years ago or 30 years ago, someone had to like find their dad's porno mag somewhere and then look at it. Now it's on their phones or computers.

And that's not to say that they have to do that forever, but it's something that's available right – 50 years ago or 30 years ago, someone had to like find their dad's porno mag somewhere and then look at it. Now it's on their phones or computers.

Right.

Right.

Right.

If people look it up, I'm sure there's meetings out there that are specific to that. There are Some treatment centers that have tracks that deal specifically with that. There's therapists that work very closely with that.

If people look it up, I'm sure there's meetings out there that are specific to that. There are Some treatment centers that have tracks that deal specifically with that. There's therapists that work very closely with that.

If people look it up, I'm sure there's meetings out there that are specific to that. There are Some treatment centers that have tracks that deal specifically with that. There's therapists that work very closely with that.

And I believe that there are some 12-step – I mean there's pretty much 12-step programs for any sort of – within things like SA or SLA, there will be subsets of meetings for people that are with a very specific condition.

And I believe that there are some 12-step – I mean there's pretty much 12-step programs for any sort of – within things like SA or SLA, there will be subsets of meetings for people that are with a very specific condition.

And I believe that there are some 12-step – I mean there's pretty much 12-step programs for any sort of – within things like SA or SLA, there will be subsets of meetings for people that are with a very specific condition.

A key to that is what you said about we look at them differently. They're going to keep it secret. And there's a saying, secrets keep us sick, but I believe there's like a real, almost a biology to that in that if you're holding it in, not sharing it, there's no really place for it to go but shame.

A key to that is what you said about we look at them differently. They're going to keep it secret. And there's a saying, secrets keep us sick, but I believe there's like a real, almost a biology to that in that if you're holding it in, not sharing it, there's no really place for it to go but shame.

A key to that is what you said about we look at them differently. They're going to keep it secret. And there's a saying, secrets keep us sick, but I believe there's like a real, almost a biology to that in that if you're holding it in, not sharing it, there's no really place for it to go but shame.

and shame separates us and separate we're not connected and not connected we're alone and alone we're you know we keep carrying that forward alone we're dead you know maybe not in that sense anymore like we talked about earlier but like we're not really living and so they're you know these guys are hearing you on a podcast and then DMing you, right?

and shame separates us and separate we're not connected and not connected we're alone and alone we're you know we keep carrying that forward alone we're dead you know maybe not in that sense anymore like we talked about earlier but like we're not really living and so they're you know these guys are hearing you on a podcast and then DMing you, right?

and shame separates us and separate we're not connected and not connected we're alone and alone we're you know we keep carrying that forward alone we're dead you know maybe not in that sense anymore like we talked about earlier but like we're not really living and so they're you know these guys are hearing you on a podcast and then DMing you, right?

They're probably not in a personal close relationship with you, right? It's easier to send it there than maybe go ask for help with somebody in their area or go to a meeting or something like that because of the stigma. So it's good that you've opened up the ability for people to do that, but to continue to direct them back to